> My calendar worked fine this morning, and is now completely blank. > Any suggestions? Thanks very much.
> Len
> On Mar 26, 8:27 pm, Google Calendar Guide wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> > I'm sorry to hear that some of you have been disheartened by our lack > > of new features in Google Calendar, and I appreciate your sharing your > > comments. I want to reassure all of you that we haven't forgotten > > about Google Calendar. In fact, we've been busy trying to make Google > > Calendar better for all of you in two big ways:
> > - We're actively working on the features outlined athttp://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=55677 > > - We've also made several changes that have been invisible to you, but > > should have had an impact on the way Google Calendar functions.
> > If you ever have trouble accessing Calendar, please write into us so > > we can help you out. While we can't personally respond to everyone's > > email, we do read everything you send us to make changes and > > improvements to the service (some you can see, others you can't).
> > Finally, the Feature Request section that Jeremy points to is a great > > way for us to evaluate what features we should work on next.
All of you will have to trust me when I say that we're very dedicated to Google Calendar and you, our users. We've taken your comments to heart and will definitely look into ways of improving our service and the way we support it. While I can't personally respond to every thread in this group, this group was designed for all of you to help one another, with some occasional assistance from me.
> All of you will have to trust me when I say that we're very dedicated > to Google Calendar and you, our users. We've taken your comments to > heart and will definitely look into ways of improving our service and > the way we support it. While I can't personally respond to every > thread in this group, this group was designed for all of you to help > one another, with some occasional assistance from me.
> On Mar 28, 12:33 pm, Google Calendar Guide wrote:
> > All of you will have to trust me when I say that we're very dedicated > > to Google Calendar and you, our users. We've taken your comments to > > heart and will definitely look into ways of improving our service and > > the way we support it. While I can't personally respond to every > > thread in this group, this group was designed for all of you to help > > one another, with some occasional assistance from me.
This thread and issue needs to go up on digg and reddit. I don't think the appropriate management at Google knows how messed up the whole GCal environment from a User-Feedback-Developer has become and that might be the only option.
Another point to note is such a brush off of responsibility and acknowledgement by the the Google Guide in this forum - right now he is averaging about 2 post a day - yes, that's TWO posts a day:
> > On Mar 28, 12:33 pm, Google Calendar Guide wrote:
> > > All of you will have to trust me when I say that we're very dedicated > > > to Google Calendar and you, our users. We've taken your comments to > > > heart and will definitely look into ways of improving our service and > > > the way we support it. While I can't personally respond to every > > > thread in this group, this group was designed for all of you to help > > > one another, with some occasional assistance from me.
Do you STILL see the "New Features!" when you go to Calender? when I go to Google Calendar, the "New Features!" notification is no longer there - it went several weeks ago.
> > You've got to remember, this is still a *beta* project. (Says so > > right on the logo.) When you decide to test an incomplete project, > > there will be times when things don't change as quickly as you'd like.
> GMail, Picasa, Picasa Web, Maps, Earth, Video, Docs & Spreadsheets, > Toolbar, Page Creator, do I have to go on? All of those services are > also "Beta". However, the difference between those and Google > Calendar, are that they get updated every once and a while. The New > Features! link in Picasa Web actually tells users about a pretty > recent change, not one that happened six months ago. All of the other > services don't have the New Features! link, why? Because THERE ARE NO > NEW FEATURES! It's funny how Google Calendar has not had a new > feature in months, yet it still has the link. Google Calendar Guide > has even replied to this thread (after four weeks as as pointed out by > makapav), which shows that someone at Google *has* seen these > complaints. However, the damn New Features! link is STILL THERE! I > admit that I only know a basic amount of HTML and Javascript, but I > know for a fact that it doesn't take much to get rid two words.
Well, yes and no. If you saw my last post, I said I created a Greasemonkey script to get rid of the link, so right now, no I do not see it anymore. However, when I disable Greasemonkey, what do you know, it's back. http://nickman55.googlepages.com/newfeatures.GIF
> Do you STILL see the "New Features!" when you go to Calender? when I > go to Google Calendar, the "New Features!" notification is no longer > there - it went several weeks ago.
> Jeremy
> On Mar 27, 4:26 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > You've got to remember, this is still a *beta* project. (Says so > > > right on the logo.) When you decide to test an incomplete project, > > > there will be times when things don't change as quickly as you'd like.
> > GMail, Picasa, Picasa Web, Maps, Earth, Video, Docs & Spreadsheets, > > Toolbar, Page Creator, do I have to go on? All of those services are > > also "Beta". However, the difference between those and Google > > Calendar, are that they get updated every once and a while. The New > > Features! link in Picasa Web actually tells users about a pretty > > recent change, not one that happened six months ago. All of the other > > services don't have the New Features! link, why? Because THERE ARE NO > > NEW FEATURES! It's funny how Google Calendar has not had a new > > feature in months, yet it still has the link. Google Calendar Guide > > has even replied to this thread (after four weeks as as pointed out by > > makapav), which shows that someone at Google *has* seen these > > complaints. However, the damn New Features! link is STILL THERE! I > > admit that I only know a basic amount of HTML and Javascript, but I > > know for a fact that it doesn't take much to get rid two words.
In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, the link is gone.
However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet it still has the new features link....
Maybe they'll do it one day... Untill then I will continue using http://www.ezmanageonline.com since it's free and I really love it. And they claim to launch sync with GCal soon.
> Has anyone else gotten the feeling that Google has forgotten about > Google Calendar? I don't remember the last time there was an actual > new feature. On top of that, they don't even update the page. They > still have the New Features link up there, and it's been months since > that was an *actual* new feature. On all the other Google Apps, that > link went away after about a week. This one has been up forever. > And, if any of you use GAFYD, you can see that the links on the top > left corner have not been updated to include Docs and Spreadsheets.
> It seems to me that Google has given up on the Calendar project and > moved on... In the time that the New Features link has been up, Google > thought of, designed, coded, tested, and "unbetaed" the new version of > Google Groups.
So has Google forgotten about Calendar? My account still shows "new features" too, but there's nothing new. And by "nothing new," I mean those "new" features are from like 2006 or so. I don't know, I'm thinking GCal may be a dead duck.
> Maybe they'll do it one day... Untill then I will continue usinghttp://www.ezmanageonline.comsince it's free and I really love it. > And they claim to launch sync with GCal soon.
> On Feb 27, 3:24 am, nickman55 wrote:
> > Has anyone else gotten the feeling that Google has forgotten about > > Google Calendar? I don't remember the last time there was an actual > > new feature. On top of that, they don't even update the page. They > > still have the New Features link up there, and it's been months since > > that was an *actual* new feature. On all the other Google Apps, that > > link went away after about a week. This one has been up forever. > > And, if any of you use GAFYD, you can see that the links on the top > > left corner have not been updated to include Docs and Spreadsheets.
> > It seems to me that Google has given up on the Calendar project and > > moved on... In the time that the New Features link has been up, Google > > thought of, designed, coded, tested, and "unbetaed" the new version of > > Google Groups.- Hide quoted text -
In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a "New Features" button on the top of the page?
This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
Steve
PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > the link is gone.
> However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > it still has the new features link....
SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- Time).
The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users rather than the IT Department "overlords".
What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang around but I do appreciate their passion!
> In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> Steve
> PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > the link is gone.
> > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
My calendar says "new features" as well. But I have my Scrybe invite now, so I think I might give that a try.
My feelings on the "new features" banner is that I understand that I can ignore it. And on it's face, it's not a big deal. But if the GCal team won't even take the time to take it down, you gotta wonder.
I still really like GCal, but I can understand everyone's frustration while waiting for more features. I think Google has set the bar very high for their products. Gmail, Picassa, Maps, Earth, etc. are regularly updated, while Calendar still seems to be lagging. I may not see all the "behind the scenes" changes that other users are apparently so astute as to notice, but I don't dispute that they are being made. However, the feature requests etc. seem to go ignored.
And I'm not naive enough to think this is a "free product." Come on, you know it wouldn't exist if there wasn't money to be made.
However, I'll stand by and check up on my CGal. I'll just be giving Scrybe a try, too (I need a calendar that works offline & online).
I'm still supportive, GCal Team. Just a little surprised.
> SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > Time).
> The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > All,
> > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > Steve
> > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > the link is gone.
> > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
Can we please get off this "new features" bandwagon and start helping those that need help. It's only a calendar. How much can it really give? Think about it for a minute. Don't like the colors--where is the to to list--why didn't my aunt Tilly get my invite. Your all sound like 2nd graders. So come on, complain about the price of gas for a while. Give new features a break, my eyes are bleeding. Gerry
> SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > Time).
> The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > All,
> > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > Steve
> > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > the link is gone.
> > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
@gerryd: I sincerely apologize for sounding like a 2nd grader. I came to this forum while trying to figure out if there was a problem with my account (because it still says "new features"). I saw an ongoing discussion and decided to add my opinion. I attempted to do so in a manner that was relevant to an ongoing discussion placed in a "Miscellaneous" category, maintained by the product's creator to foster discussion about the product. However, I now undesrtand that I failed.
I can see now that was the wrong thing to do. I am truly sorry to have taken your time. I must have misunderstood the purpose of this forum. It won't happen again.
It cost me around $60 to fill up the other day. I guess it's time to buy a hybrid.
> Can we please get off this "new features" bandwagon and start helping > those that need help. It's only a calendar. How much can it really > give? > Think about it for a minute. Don't like the colors--where is the to to > list--why didn't my aunt Tilly get my invite. Your all sound like 2nd > graders. > So come on, complain about the price of gas for a while. Give new > features a break, my eyes are bleeding. > Gerry
> On May 15, 5:39 am, berock wrote:
> > SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > > Time).
> > The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> > Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> > What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> > On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > > All,
> > > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > > Steve
> > > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > > the link is gone.
> > > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
Gee, gerryd, no one's minimizing the assistance that YOU've provided to others. Why do YOU minimize OTHERS' efforts? When you click on any "View profile", most of those participating in this discussion thread, regardless of which side of the discussion they fall, have LONG lists of participating in other discussion threads to HELP OUT OTHER USERS. Aside from providing technical help on our OWN time, I think we're entitled to express an occasional opinion or two on the direction of what we VOLUNTARILY support.
> Can we please get off this "new features" bandwagon and start helping > those that need help. It's only a calendar. How much can it really > give? > Think about it for a minute. Don't like the colors--where is the to to > list--why didn't my aunt Tilly get my invite. Your all sound like 2nd > graders. > So come on, complain about the price of gas for a while. Give new > features a break, my eyes are bleeding. > Gerry
> On May 15, 5:39 am, berock wrote:
> > SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > > Time).
> > The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> > Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> > What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> > On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > > All,
> > > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > > Steve
> > > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > > the link is gone.
> > > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
I generalized identities..I don't look up profiles before I answer..I do help out others voluntarily on my own time...I enjoyed reading your responces and tech help to others. They also helped me at times.. What did I ever do to you. You struck a low and unfair blow...
> Gee, gerryd, no one's minimizing the assistance that YOU've provided > to others. Why do YOU minimize OTHERS' efforts? When you click on > any "View profile", most of those participating in this discussion > thread, regardless of which side of the discussion they fall, have > LONG lists of participating in other discussion threads to HELP OUT > OTHER USERS. Aside from providing technical help on our OWN time, I > think we're entitled to express an occasional opinion or two on the > direction of what we VOLUNTARILY support.
> On May 16, 12:11 am, gerryd wrote:
> > Can we please get off this "new features" bandwagon and start helping > > those that need help. It's only a calendar. How much can it really > > give? > > Think about it for a minute. Don't like the colors--where is the to to > > list--why didn't my aunt Tilly get my invite. Your all sound like 2nd > > graders. > > So come on, complain about the price of gas for a while. Give new > > features a break, my eyes are bleeding. > > Gerry
> > On May 15, 5:39 am, berock wrote:
> > > SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > > > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > > > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > > > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > > > Time).
> > > The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > > > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > > > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > > > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > > > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > > > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > > > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > > > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > > > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > > > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > > > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > > > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> > > Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > > > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > > > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > > > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > > > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > > > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > > > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > > > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > > > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > > > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> > > What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > > > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > > > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > > > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> > > On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > > > All,
> > > > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > > > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > > > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > > > Steve
> > > > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > > > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > > > the link is gone.
> > > > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
Freddya Don't take what I said personnally. I was speaking in generalizations.I hadn't even read your note when I entered mine. Please continue to be involve in the all the conversations that are held.
> @gerryd: I sincerely apologize for sounding like a 2nd grader. I > came to this forum while trying to figure out if there was a problem > with my account (because it still says "new features"). I saw an > ongoing discussion and decided to add my opinion. I attempted to do > so in a manner that was relevant to an ongoing discussion placed in a > "Miscellaneous" category, maintained by the product's creator to > foster discussion about the product. However, I now undesrtand that I > failed.
> I can see now that was the wrong thing to do. I am truly sorry to > have taken your time. I must have misunderstood the purpose of this > forum. It won't happen again.
> It cost me around $60 to fill up the other day. I guess it's time to > buy a hybrid.
> On May 15, 11:11 pm, gerryd wrote:
> > Can we please get off this "new features" bandwagon and start helping > > those that need help. It's only a calendar. How much can it really > > give? > > Think about it for a minute. Don't like the colors--where is the to to > > list--why didn't my aunt Tilly get my invite. Your all sound like 2nd > > graders. > > So come on, complain about the price of gas for a while. Give new > > features a break, my eyes are bleeding. > > Gerry
> > On May 15, 5:39 am, berock wrote:
> > > SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > > > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > > > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > > > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > > > Time).
> > > The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > > > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > > > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > > > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > > > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > > > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > > > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > > > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > > > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > > > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > > > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > > > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> > > Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > > > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > > > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > > > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > > > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > > > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > > > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > > > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > > > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > > > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> > > What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > > > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > > > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > > > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> > > On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > > > All,
> > > > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > > > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > > > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > > > Steve
> > > > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > > > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > > > the link is gone.
> > > > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
> Freddya > Don't take what I said personnally. I was speaking in > generalizations.I hadn't even read your note when I entered mine. > Please continue to be involve in the all the conversations that are > held.
> Sorry--- > Gerry
> On May 16, 9:34 am, Freddya wrote:
> > @gerryd: I sincerely apologize for sounding like a 2nd grader. I > > came to this forum while trying to figure out if there was a problem > > with my account (because it still says "new features"). I saw an > > ongoing discussion and decided to add my opinion. I attempted to do > > so in a manner that was relevant to an ongoing discussion placed in a > > "Miscellaneous" category, maintained by the product's creator to > > foster discussion about the product. However, I now undesrtand that I > > failed.
> > I can see now that was the wrong thing to do. I am truly sorry to > > have taken your time. I must have misunderstood the purpose of this > > forum. It won't happen again.
> > It cost me around $60 to fill up the other day. I guess it's time to > > buy a hybrid.
> > On May 15, 11:11 pm, gerryd wrote:
> > > Can we please get off this "new features" bandwagon and start helping > > > those that need help. It's only a calendar. How much can it really > > > give? > > > Think about it for a minute. Don't like the colors--where is the to to > > > list--why didn't my aunt Tilly get my invite. Your all sound like 2nd > > > graders. > > > So come on, complain about the price of gas for a while. Give new > > > features a break, my eyes are bleeding. > > > Gerry
> > > On May 15, 5:39 am, berock wrote:
> > > > SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > > > > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > > > > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > > > > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > > > > Time).
> > > > The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > > > > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > > > > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > > > > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > > > > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > > > > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > > > > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > > > > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > > > > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > > > > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > > > > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > > > > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> > > > Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > > > > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > > > > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > > > > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > > > > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > > > > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > > > > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > > > > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > > > > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > > > > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> > > > What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > > > > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > > > > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > > > > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> > > > On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > > > > All,
> > > > > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > > > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > > > > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > > > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > > > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > > > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > > > > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > > > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > > > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > > > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > > > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > > > > Steve
> > > > > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > > > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > > > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > > > > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > > > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > > > > the link is gone.
> > > > > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
This is NOT a free service, I pay $50 for it as part of google apps for your domain. Beta is no longer an excuse for what is wanton slacking and ZERO communication with your user base and customers.
> Do you STILL see the "New Features!" when you go to Calender? when I > go toGoogleCalendar, the "New Features!" notification is no longer > there - it went several weeks ago.
> Jeremy
> On Mar 27, 4:26 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > You've got to remember, this is still a *beta* project. (Says so > > > right on the logo.) When you decide to test an incomplete project, > > > there will be times when things don't change as quickly as you'd like.
> > GMail, Picasa, Picasa Web, Maps, Earth, Video, Docs & Spreadsheets, > > Toolbar, Page Creator, do I have to go on? All of those services are > > also "Beta". However, the difference between those andGoogle > >Calendar, are that they get updated every once and a while. The New > > Features! link in Picasa Web actually tells users about a pretty > > recent change, not one that happened six months ago. All of the other > > services don't have the New Features! link, why? Because THERE ARE NO > > NEW FEATURES! It's funny howGoogleCalendarhas not had a new > > feature in months, yet it still has the link. GoogleCalendarGuide > > has even replied to this thread (after four weeks as as pointed out by > > makapav), which shows that someone atGoogle*has* seen these > > complaints. However, the damn New Features! link is STILL THERE! I > > admit that I only know a basic amount of HTML and Javascript, but I > > know for a fact that it doesn't take much to get rid two words.
gerryd: Same as freddy, I thought your reply post was directed at me (and freddy) because it quoted "On May 15, 5:39 am, berock wrote:". I guess we all made the same mistake. Sorry!
> I generalized identities..I don't look up profiles before I answer..I > do help out others voluntarily on my own time...I enjoyed reading your > responces and tech help to others. They also helped me at times.. What > did I ever do to you. You struck a low and unfair blow...
> On May 16, 8:20 pm, berock wrote:
> > Gee, gerryd, no one's minimizing the assistance that YOU've provided > > to others. Why do YOU minimize OTHERS' efforts? When you click on > > any "View profile", most of those participating in this discussion > > thread, regardless of which side of the discussion they fall, have > > LONG lists of participating in other discussion threads to HELP OUT > > OTHER USERS. Aside from providing technical help on our OWN time, I > > think we're entitled to express an occasional opinion or two on the > > direction of what we VOLUNTARILY support.
> > On May 16, 12:11 am, gerryd wrote:
> > > Can we please get off this "new features" bandwagon and start helping > > > those that need help. It's only a calendar. How much can it really > > > give? > > > Think about it for a minute. Don't like the colors--where is the to to > > > list--why didn't my aunt Tilly get my invite. Your all sound like 2nd > > > graders. > > > So come on, complain about the price of gas for a while. Give new > > > features a break, my eyes are bleeding. > > > Gerry
> > > On May 15, 5:39 am, berock wrote:
> > > > SteveRP: I fully agree with you. I've used a number of calendaring > > > > products over the decades and Google Calendar is the first one to have > > > > nearly all the capabilities to match defunct Campbell Systems' On-Time > > > > in usefulness and utility (and adds a few new capabilities beyond On- > > > > Time).
> > > > The reality is that until web-based Google Calendar came along, most > > > > calendaring apps were driven by the purchase mandates of everyone's IT > > > > Departments that are on an exclusive Redmond mindset (if Microsoft > > > > doesn't make it, IT won't support it, so get that app off "our" > > > > computers' hard drives). Regardless of whoever else's calendaring you > > > > use, except for software companies whose primary focus is either the > > > > economic dead-end of SELLING individual calendaring apps or the > > > > pricey, scaleable enterprise solutions beyond the reach of most users' > > > > wallets, out of economic necessity calendaring apps tend to be oh-yeah- > > > > we've-got-to-provide-that-too afterthoughts tacked on to other apps, > > > > sufficient to meet the bare essentials to users but not enough for > > > > them to pay for any resource or talent investment.
> > > > Even though I run my own personal pc, until Google upset the Redmond > > > > applecart, my choices for new calendaring apps were limited by the IT > > > > Department market forces dominating everyone's private purchase > > > > selections. (I ended up having to continue to run a combination of > > > > defunct On-Time and a pre-enterprise version of Baseline System's Info > > > > Accelerator.) While there are capabilities I'd like to see added > > > > yesterday (like a "Go To Date" feature) to Google Calendar, Google > > > > Calendar is a free-standing application independent of hard-drive > > > > installation that has returned a great measure of control to the users > > > > rather than the IT Department "overlords".
> > > > What I find odd about this discussion thread is that some of those > > > > most vitriolic are those who identified themselves as EX-Google- > > > > Calendar users in other threads. I'm wonderring why they still hang > > > > around but I do appreciate their passion!
> > > > On May 14, 11:39 am, SRP wrote:
> > > > > All,
> > > > > In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter that there's a > > > > > "New Features" button on the top of the page?
> > > > > This is a "free" application that does quite nicely at managing basic > > > > > calendar functions. I've seen things changing "behind the scenes" so > > > > > technically there are always new features. Witness the recent print > > > > > option changes for one. That's come in handy (for me at least).
> > > > > There are obviously people working on this application (no, I don't > > > > > know how many), making changes (slow pace, but changes are getting > > > > > made). And given Googles "grand vision" of Web 2.0 interaction, I'm > > > > > sure that the changes they are considering (and making) must take into > > > > > consideration the impact on all the other Google tools.
> > > > > Steve
> > > > > PS: I do NOT work for or with Google, I just use their tools (and am > > > > > very happy with them). For the tools that don't do what I want (yet), > > > > > I make the suggestions, and if necessary, find alternatives.
> > > > > On Apr 23, 6:13 pm, nickman55 wrote:
> > > > > > In case you guys didn't notice, I'll point this out: Google Docs & > > > > > > Spreadsheets recently got a new feature, charts for the spreadsheets. > > > > > > This feature came out on 4/17, where it was announced via the New > > > > > > Features link. Now, a week later, since the feature is no longer new, > > > > > > the link is gone.
> > > > > > However, look at Google Calendar, no new feature in many months, yet > > > > > > it still has the new features link....- Hide quoted text -
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